Domestic Criminal Terrorist!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Report describes Austin crash pilot's final minutes

Stack spoke to controller before descending rapidly.

The first federal report on the crash of a single-engine private plane into a Northwest Austin office building last month described the final flight of pilot Joe Stack, including how he descended sharply and impacted the building between the first and second floors.

According to the one-page report, Stack descended from 4,800 feet in the three minutes before the Feb. 18 crash, which sparked a fiery explosion at the Echelon 1 building near MoPac Boulevard (Loop 1) and U.S. 183.

Stack and Vernon Hunter, an employee of the Internal Revenue Service, were killed. -->-->-->

Savings and Benefits from Government Investment

This morning I ran across the report below.

Big Payback For VA Health IT

The Veterans Affairs Department has invested more than $4 billion on its Veterans Health Information System and Technology Architecture (VistA) during the last two decades. But the payback the department has received has pretty much exceeded those costs, Health Affairs Journal reported in its April issue.

As of 2007, VistA's savings and benefits totaled about $3 billion more than the amount VA has invested in it, according to the Health Affairs study, which was conducted by the Center for IT Leadership at Partners Healthcare in Boston. -->-->-->

Which, as the Health Affairs Journal is an online subscription site, led me to do a quick search, coming up with the following report on the study that gives more information then the one above announcing the Journals findings.

VA spends more, achieves higher levels of health IT adoption

In comparing health IT within the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) to the standards in the private sector, researchers from the Center for IT Leadership in Charlestown, Mass., determined that the VA spent proportionately more on IT than the private healthcare sector spent, but it achieved higher levels of IT adoption and quality of care.

The study, appearing in the April edition of HealthAffairs, estimated the potential value of the VA’s health IT investments to be approximately $3.09 billion in cumulative benefits net of investment costs. The investments, consisting of EHRs, radiological imaging and laboratory and medication ordering and administration, known as the Veterans Health Information Systems and Technology Architecture (VistA), is associated with significant reductions in unnecessary and redundant care, process efficiencies and improvements in care, said Colene M. Byrne, senior analyst and lead author of the study.

Through a benchmarking analysis, the authors sought to compare levels of health IT system adoption by the VA to the private sector, as well as whether this adoption is associated with changes in the care process and the level of health IT spending that is necessary to sustain adoption. -->-->-->

Which also led me to this Wall Street Journal blog report on same.

Study: VA’s Computer Systems Cost Billions, but Have Big Payback

Anyone who follows health IT knows that the Department of Veterans Affairs often gets high marks for being an early adopter of electronic medical systems in the U.S. Now a study in Health Affairs tries to put a price-tag on what the VA systems collectively called Vista, for Veterans Health Information Systems and Technology Architecture.

The bottom line: “We conservatively estimate that the VA’s investments in the four health IT systems studied yielded $3.09 billion in cumulative benefits net of investment costs by 2007,” say the authors, a team from Center for IT Leadership at Partners Healthcare in Charlestown, Mass. The results looks at measures such as reduced workloads, freed workspace and savings from items such as unneeded medical tests and avoided hospital admissions. -->-->-->

VistA: Veterans Health Information System and Technology Architecture

I've been saying, as have many veterans, and pushing for more front end investments into making the VA Care System the best in the World ever since coming back from Vietnam at the end of my four year tour of service to this country and the horrendous problems our brothers and sisters were having in getting care, while at the same time many having little to no problems out of the norm. You don't fund on the front and keep ahead of the advancing technology, by being a part of that advancement, it costs much more then double to play catchup. With our want for Wars of Choice, Vietnam and now two more long invasions and occupations, the VA Health Care should have been the envy of the world in care as well as research and teaching decades ago.

There's one political ideology, seeming to even have lost much of that ideology in the past decades, that has hindered the needs of the VA as well as our other government agencies, which has ended up in a constant state of catchup and not in saving money and extending that into the private sector and further, as to the VA they love war and playing tough as a king of the mountain country but hate paying for anything, that which they want and use and especially the results of the wars they push to wage!

If you've been following the Veterans Administration the past year plus you'll know that there's been an awful lot of movement to bring that Agency into the 21st Century. As soon as Gen. Shinseki was confirmed he hit the pavement running forward, even with many he brought in to help in his administration. Sure there's been problems, many coming from studies of what wasn't being done in the previous administration while waging two more wars, but taking on the problems head first and seeking to minimize the problems and erase them. many of these problems are also coming from what wasn't done for decades and in once again playing catchup to not only correct but to make the Agency run better and smother thus Saving Money as well as giving the best back to those who gave up so much in service to their country as well as what their families sacrificed.

On another note abit of more on profitting from questionable investments that many fear but do receive payback and thus savings.



Now where the Hell is all that Private Capital as the money prophet's stated would keep our economy number one in the world if only we let the few at the top reap the benefits of our work, and everything else like they and their companies not forking over their fair share, and they in turn would 'trickle down' that wealth so all would prosper!!!

'AMONG THE RIGHTEOUS'

Last night they had a small preview and short discussion of an upcoming documentary to air on PBS.

AIR DATE: April 5, 2010
Documentary Examines 'Righteous' Arab Actions During Holocaust



SUMMARY
Robert Satloff, director of the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, talks to Jeffrey Brown about "Among the Righteous," his eight-year project to document the stories of Arabs helping Jews during the Holocaust and the forthcoming PBS documentary based on his work. Transcript

This is the site for above documentary.

Lost Stories From the Holocaust in Arab Lands

Tune In April 12, 2010

Did any Arabs save Jews during the Holocaust? That's the question author Robert Satloff had in mind when he set out to discover the lost, true stories of survival, courage and betrayal in Arab lands during World War II. The history of the Holocaust in Europe is well-documented, but the history of what happened to the Jewish people of North Africa has been mostly forgotten, even in the very towns and cities where it occurred. -->-->-->

When most people think about the concentration camps of World War II, Auschwitz and other sites in Europe come to mind. But there were also camps in northern Africa -- as mentioned by Ingrid Bergman's character Ilsa Lund in the film Casablanca -- shown on this map.

Timeline

Compare events of World War II in North Africa with what was going on in Europe and the United States at the same time.

Read more about the true stories in Among the Righteous. Plus, watch video clips and extended interviews about some of the people profiled. -->-->-->

Rage on the Right

The Year in Hate and Extremism

The radical right caught fire last year, as broad-based populist anger at political, demographic and economic changes in America ignited an explosion of new extremist groups and activism across the nation.

Hate groups stayed at record levels — almost 1,000 — despite the total collapse of the second largest neo-Nazi group in America. Furious anti-immigrant vigilante groups soared by nearly 80%, adding some 136 new groups during 2009. And, most remarkably of all, so-called "Patriot" groups — militias and other organizations that see the federal government as part of a plot to impose “one-world government” on liberty-loving Americans — came roaring back after years out of the limelight. -->-->-->

Intelligence Report, Spring 2010, Issue Number:137

GOP: ‘Would Agree That Iraq Was A Mistake’

Really??

Seems like only yesterday and thousands of soldiers lives, killed and maimed, tens of thousands of Iraqi's lives with millions made into refugee's in their country or fled to their neighbors, least we forget the multi billions of dollars spent and outright lost as well!

Back then we heard this:

Bush: 10 Million People is 'Focus Group'

Antiwar Protests Fail to Sway Bush on Plans for Iraq

February 20, 2003 President Bush dismissed antiwar protests today as a factor in his plans for confronting Iraq and pressed ahead with a strategy to persuade reluctant allies that United Nations weapons inspections would not secure the disarmament of Saddam Hussein.

In his first public comments about the antiwar demonstrations by millions of people over the weekend in the United States and abroad, Mr. Bush said his overriding goal was to protect the American people and that leadership sometimes involved bucking public opinion.

"Size of protest — it's like deciding, well, I'm going to decide policy based upon a focus group," Mr. Bush said in response to a reporter's question at the White House. "The role of a leader is to decide policy based upon the security, in this case, the security of the people." -->-->-->

As that invasion destroyed the security by creating more hatreds of us!!

Now the 'super patriots' are singing another tune, as we still have soldiers in that theater, and it's grown worse in the then ignored theater of opporations and occupation, and yes dying!

GOP Congressmen Say That ‘Everyone’ In Congress ‘Would Agree That Iraq Was A Mistake’

Yesterday, the libertarian Cato Institute hosted a panel discussion on conservatism and the war in Afghanistan with Rep. Tom McClintock (R-CA), Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (R-CA) and Rep. John J. Duncan, Jr. (R-TN). When the conversation shifted to the war in Iraq, Rohrabacher said that “once President Bush decided to go into Iraq, I thought it was a mistake because we hadn’t finished the job in Afghanistan,” but that once Bush “decided to go in,” he “felt compelled” to “back him up.” He then added that “the decision to go in, in retrospect, almost all of us think that was a horrible mistake.”

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Asked for a number by Norquist, Duncan refused to say, but shared an anecdote of how unpopular the war is politically in his conservative military district. Watch it:



Rest Found Here

The Iraq war: still a massive mistake

The Iraq war is now being declared a success by some who point to recent progress. But the March 7 elections won’t change the tremendous cost in lives, money, US image, and geopolitics.

There’s a growing narrative that Iraq’s solidifying democracy makes the seven years of US war and occupation a worthy enterprise.

Some observers have even spun Iraq’s March 7 elections as proof that democracy promotion via military occupation can succeed. Don’t believe the hype. The Iraq war remains a mistake of mammoth proportions. And Iraq’s election represents a pyrrhic victory, as the economic, political, and moral costs of the occupation far outweigh any benefits.

First are the sacrifices in terms of blood and treasure. The broad consensus is that the war has cost the US economy well over $700 billion – with the meter still running. The Iraq war has also left nearly 4,400 American troops dead, more than 31,000 physically disabled, and countless more psychologically traumatized.

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A fourth consequence of the war in Iraq – and one that should determine whether it is deemed a “success” – is that it did little to keep America safe from Al Qaeda, the perpetrators of 9/11. In this respect, what makes “Bush’s war” in Iraq arguably one of the biggest strategic blunders in US history is not just the litany of failures it caused but the opportunities America lost. The disaster in Iraq diverted badly needed intelligence assets, public attention, and congressional oversight from the forgotten war in Afghanistan.

Maybe that’s why two GOP members of Congress who recently visited the Cato Institute in Washington revealed that most Republicans on the Hill now believe the Iraq war was a mistake. They also said that “more than half the Republican caucus” believes the way the US began the Afghanistan war was a mistake. Today, polls show that most Americans say the invasion of Iraq was a “mistake” and “not worth it.” -->-->-->

BUSH “EVIL DOERS”

Anyone old enough, and that includes all of those who are of Vietnam era age or before and still alive to the years after, and paying even a little bit of attention to how our intelligence agencies worked and were caught doing, laws passed as to regime change assassinations etc., then were really paying attention to not only the Afghan/Soviet debacle but the installation of and rise of leaders like Saddam and our connections with that whole region, Should have been Quickly Suspect as to anything that administration was saying, Especially as it quickly lost interest in bin Laden, another CIA Arms connection, and started the drums beating towards Iraq!! The only ones who wouldn’t, as to veterans of Vietnam and their pals, were those still trying to justify the fantasy that we were in Vietnam fighting an ideology called communism and stay in denial about what is done In Our Names!

GORDON DUFF: BUSH “EVIL DOERS” NOTHING BUT “COVER,” TERROR LEADERS A MYTH

For many months, our sources in Pakistan, including the country’s top military advisers, have been telling us that “top terrorist” Gulbuddin Hikmatyar, a man being hunted by the Delta Force, CIA and thousands of American troops, was advising American negotiations to end the war in Afghanistan. We had been told that he had been a “trusted source” for many years, including the years that the US listed him as a top bin Laden lieutenant. If this was true, and we have since learned it is, then most of what we had all been told about the Bush “war on terror” had been total baloney. -->-->-->

War has a way of Surfacing.........

Ohio man encounters Vietnam memories at Fort Worth restaurant

Mar. 31, 2010

Ada Randall's brother-in-law, Sgt. John E. Miller, died in Vietnam. West Side Cafe employees connected her with an Ohio man who served with Miller and saw his picture at the restaurant.

War has a way of surfacing at the most improbable times and unlikely places.

The hostess and waitresses at the West Side Cafe can attest.

Not long ago, on an ordinary, crowded Thursday morning, a man visiting from Ohio came in for a plate of bacon and eggs, saw a photo on the wall and dissolved into tears, unable to speak.

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"I just couldn't believe seeing that picture down there," Taylor said by phone, having returned to Cincinnati.

Miller's sister-in-law, Ada Randall, could hardly believe it either. It was her idea to hang Miller's picture on the cafe wall a few months ago, not expecting to talk to someone who was among the last to see him alive.

"It was like I had gotten a message from Johnny," she said. "It shook me up for several days." -->-->-->

Vietnam story gets more complicated with a new coincidence

Apr. 01, 2010

This picture was taken at a base camp in Vietnam in early 1966. Sgt. John E. Miller is the tall, dark-haired man in the middle of the back row. Galen Taylor is directly in front of him, squatting and wearing a bush hat.

Don't try to figure out the odds of the story below actually happening.

The Star-Telegram ran a story Wednesday about an Ohio man who recently and unexpectedly saw a portrait hanging in the West Side Cafe of a soldier whose body he carried out after a brutal firefight.

Galen Taylor, who lives in Cincinnati, spent the remainder of his trip to Fort Worth reconnecting with the surviving family of Army Sgt. John E. Miller, who was killed on June 11, 1966, in the same battle in which Taylor was wounded.

Taylor had never expected to find Miller's family in the Fort Worth area, much less see his picture on the wall of a cafe, because as far as he knew Miller was from Illinois.

But the story gets more improbable.

Late Wednesday afternoon, Maria Lofton called the Star-Telegram from her home outside Joshua in Johnson County.

"My husband, Staff Sgt. Glen Lofton, was killed June 11, 1966, and he was in the 28th Infantry," she said. "Isn't that a coincidence?"

That's an understatement to Taylor, who can't quite believe that three young men from different parts of the country would be in the same infantry unit, the same battle and that all three of their families would eventually make their way to the Fort Worth area.

"I didn't expect this to happen, but I'm glad it did," Taylor said. "It was meant to be, I guess." -->-->-->

Needed VA Hospitals and Community Reachout to Vets

Valley veterans welcome improved VA services but continue hospital push

>> To contact the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs health care system in the Rio Grande Valley, call (956) 430-9304 or write to or visit the VA Texas Valley Coastal Bend Health Care System office at 2701 S. 77 Sunshine Strip, Harlingen, Texas 78550.

HARLINGEN — Veterans who have been calling for a full-service veterans hospital in the Rio Grande Valley say they will never stop pushing toward their goal.

But leaders of veterans groups say health care services in the region already are greatly improved.

Ray Molano, commander of Vietnam Veterans of America Chapter 856, said his group and others in the Valley Veterans Alliance plan to keep pressure on federal officials to build a full-service veterans hospital.

“We’re still pushing to get a hospital,” Molano said. “We have the Winter Texans coming down for five or six months a year or even becoming permanent residents.” -->-->-->

I covered this ongoing need for and years of lobbying for in a couple of early posts you can find Here and Here, why, well it's been a decades long fight for by our brother 'Nam Vets and the other conflict veterans in that area of the country, as in some others, and has now been joined and led by the new generation veterans of the two occupations still ongoing, coming into the tenth year of. The need now has only grown!

And here's a need of sacrifice by the communities, and country, for the sacrifice the soldier and their families give but isn't returned by way too many in a society.

Local doctor has a plan to help the VA treat America's vets -- for free

The Veterans Administration more than has its hands full when it comes to caring for aging and injured veterans. Even under the best of circumstances, they have millions of patients to care for each year.
But a Houston-area doctor has a plan – he wants the rest of the medical community to step in and do their part. John Thompson is one of those veterans. He makes monthly visits to Dr. Todd Hatch for neck, back and foot pain.

That pain started on the other side of the world, when Thompson spent a year with the Army in Iraq.



Hatch set up the Wounded Warriors Volunteer Association Web site, in the hopes that it will be a place where soldiers can find doctors from every specialty who are willing to provide at least some of their services free of charge. -->-->-->

As a side and using this Doctors efforts, and professional qualities and community outreach, expand your mind into other businesses and professions, or media and those you watch and listen to, or any of the contacts in your daily life and even what you yourself offer individually and as a community.

Would you rather give your care and business to the doctor above, or any others of other professions and businesses, or this one being discussed:





Now, who would you think had the Intelligence, or even the mentality of that intelligence, you seek to give you the care you really need, once again expand your mind into the others!

Millennial Veterans

Have a friend that contacted me and in that e-mail she told me about a brainstorming meeting taking place just before this weekend and into, April 1-3 of the Millennial Veterans. One of the couples sons, an Afghanistan and Iraq war Veteran, he served in both theaters, is attending this gathering. This group of Millennials sounds an awful lot like what happened as to us boomer's especially those of us after our service in the military and especially Vietnam. Matter of fact the whole movement, the Millennials, of this generational group are getting much more involved in many issues that seemed to have skipped over the couple of generations just previous to them at least for most in those generations. I've been watching them for a few years now. They've not only taken up the issues we oldsters worried about and lobbied to change, in government and in society, they've been expanding on them not only to fit these times but like the technology they've expanded the issues forward, and now some of them have not only served in War but have done so in Two occupations of choice and in more then one tour of duty.

I hadn't known that some of our younger brothers and sisters had formed a Millennial Veterans group and have joined with others in a coalition of groups especially with the other veterans groups forming new VSO's and other advocacy and activist organizations to lobby for the needs today, the needs especially not taken care of by the country that send them into Wars and Occupations.

Here's some info, given and found, on the Millennials and the Millennial Veterans gathering and brainstorming.

Beyond The Welcome Home

If you are a veteran between the ages of 18-34, we want you to join us in Los Angeles, CA.

read more

Democracy 2.0

On July 4, 2007, Mobilize.org launched Democracy 2.0 to call attention to the ways that our democratic process and institutions are properly serving — and failing to serve — the interests of young Americans. Based on a sincere belief that America’s youth are a major source of untapped political power, energy, and innovative ideas, Democracy 2.0 is designed to address the civic participation needs and interests of the Millennial Generation (born between 1976 and 1996). The ultimate goal: -->-->-->

Millennial Veteran Leadership Summit info

Out of the 2 million men and women who have served our country in Iraq and Afghanistan, almost 1.26 million of them are Millennials just like you and me.

And just like you and me, these young men and women are concerned about their families and their friends. They are concerned about their future and they are searching for meaningful opportunities to continue their service when they return to their campuses and their communities.

That’s why, this April 1 - 3, Mobilize.org is proud to announce our Democracy 2.0 Awards Summit: Beyond the Welcome Home. During this time 100 Millennial veterans will meet to discuss and develop ideas that they believe will improve the way democracy works in their communities and in our country. -->-->-->

Military Veterans Organization at UCLA

Democracy 2.0 - Next Generation Democracy

Wikis, Web 2.0, etc I think have the potential to fundamentally transform the way we are governed and radically reshape political philosophy. Not since the days of Locke, Hobbes, Rousseau etc do we have the opportunity and the tools to address the many short comings of democratic society, especially the domination of special interests and lobbyists.

As Churchill once commented "democracy is the worst form of government, but it is better than any other type of government we have ever tried." Democracy 2.0 represents an opportunity to redress the many short comings of the worst possible government we have - democracy as we know it today. -->-->-->

Here's hoping this new generation movement, especially this generations combat veterans of two occupations of choice, not only continues to expand on the issues much needed in this country but carries what they do farther and into the generations behind them. Look around and even just listen, this country has lost it's way and the rest of the world has noticed and watches as well.

Maybe this time, especially as to these veterans, the country will listen and do what they should have been doing through the previous decades but didn't! The veterans groups, especially, forming from these two wars are and have already been organized as proactive veterans groups, far more advanced then the long established major VSO's who have been always reactive especially in their reactions to the needs of the veterans they're supposed to be fighting for, reason the leaderships have always tilted towards the ideology of spend less and do little in advocacy but be active in marketing themselves for members and funds.

These new veterans groups are much more like the many Vietnam veterans groups of proactive advocates and activist but much smaller then the nationally known and long time veterans groups. The new generation has already expanded further than we have especially because of this technology which has also helped us in our battles for what the country not only owes those who serve but are obligated to sacrifice as they demand we and the families of have always been asked to do.

Us older vets will help this new generation in any way we can and hopefully already have. I do know, sadly, we have finally gotten the attention of not only this society but world wide as to the unseen mental damage that occurs from War, not only as to soldiers but those invaded and occupied, Post Traumatic Stress, which also finally is being understood, researched and discussed as to the trauma's of civilians who live through and live after suffering or misdiagnosed silently! Now we need the Country to pony up to research and help in what they've long ignored and many denied!

The 'rambo' U.S. Terrorist in Cammies

The ramping up of the little 'rambo's' and the Domestic Criminal Terrorist Rhetoric!! Notice how they sound just like those they claim to be 'terrorist' of other countries, religions and race!!

FBI Investigating Extremist Group Letters Telling Governors To Leave Office

The FBI is warning police across the country that an anti-government group's call to remove governors from office could provoke violence by others.

A group that calls itself the Guardians of the free Republics wants to "restore America" by peacefully dismantling parts of the government, according to its Web site.

As of Wednesday, more than 30 governors had received letters saying if they don't leave office within three days they will be removed, according to an internal intelligence note by the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security. The note was obtained by The Associated Press. -->-->-->

Census

On the census, this is another of great wonder as to the mentality and intelligence of the opposer's to. Not only especially their reps who should know better, hey they work in congress or in the capital, but to their 'tea party baggers', if you fill out and send it costs Us the taxpayers only the postage, the rest of the costs are already known and budgeted from that point. But if you refuse to fill it out and mail it it averages to a $60 cost for each house that needs to be visited, some numerous times!!! Oh and as to illegals, those who do give information aren't known as so they add to the count that helps the communities!!

Census: If you aren’t counted, you don’t count

April 1: Mother Jones magazine’s David Corn discusses how people will benefit from returning their Census forms.

The other day, on the PBS News Hour they had a discussion about the census and it's meaning etc..

AIR DATE: March 31, 2010
Census Pushes Americans' Participation as Deadline Looms

SUMMARY
As the deadline for the 2010 census nears, Jim Lehrer talks to U.S. Census director Robert Groves about the challenges of counting the U.S. population and the trends the new data might show.



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ROBERT GROVES: As of just a few minutes ago, we ended our meeting, and we're at 52 percent of the occupied households, our estimate, having turned them in. About 62 million households have returned their forms. It's great.

JIM LEHRER: So, over two -- with two weeks still to go, that's when you're going to -- you're going to -- you're going to count anything that happens in the next two weeks as having met the deadline.

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JIM LEHRER: And they literally knock on people's doors, right?

ROBERT GROVES: That's right. They have a list of all the houses, the addresses that didn't mail back the form, and they will knock on those doors. They won't be knocking on the doors of the folks who turned it back in.

There's a money story to be told connected to this thing. At an individual level, if you choose to fill out your form and mail it back, that costs us taxpayers about 42 cents. If not, since by law, we have to count everyone, we will send someone out. That costs about $60 per household.

JIM LEHRER: For somebody to go to the door and do that?

ROBERT GROVES: Absolutely. We have to train them. They have to travel out. They have to repeatedly call. So, there's a great incentive for all of us to -- to fill it out and mail it back. Rest of Transcript

Now, as we all know, this isn't the only issue many take in opposing but also rail against the taxes they pay for that which they use daily or is there for them if needed, By not filling out and being counted it also cuts the return back to your state the federal funds raised by those taxes for not only your own needs but those of your communities and state, and if done efficiently saves money thus the chances to lower those contributions, taxes, we all pay!

Paul Hardcastle's "19" gets remixed for Afghanistan

Short BBC interview, new song mix to be released 19 April 2010

25 years after Paul Hardcastle released his anti-war hit 19, he has reworked the dance track for Afghanistan.

The 'godfather of sampling' says he was inspired by his son, whose friend died fighting in Afghanistan, and wanted to raise awareness of the young age of those involved in war.

The original track used footage from a documentary about Vietnam war veterans. -->-->-->

The Original "19" About Vietnam

“Tim McVeigh wannabees”

Hannity calls tea party GOPers “Tim McVeigh wannabees” — and they cheer! First broadcast: Apr 1, 2010

Transcript:

HANNITY: See, can I add one thing? I think we won the debate.

DREIER: We did win the debate.

HANNITY: When you think about the vast majorities that they have in Congress and they had to bribe, backroom deals, corruption, that’s all because the tea party movement, the people — all these Tim McVeigh wannabes here.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

HANNITY: Guys, thank you for being here.

(CROSSTALK)

You deserve a thank you there hannity, for telling us, and them, what We Already Knew!!!

Not al Qaeda, Collapse of the bush Administration!!!

Looks like much more of the cheney/bush years are continuing to collapse, and All Done In Our Names. This may explain the widespread push, especially from republicans? in Congress, they're figureheads around the Country and those connected to that administration but not in Government have so forcefully been pushing the fox nation types to rail against closing Gitmo and having No Trials of so called terrorist inside this Country and in our Courts. Courts of a supposedly Lawful Nation!

Truthout has updated an earlier report of what's coming down.

US Recants Claims on "High-Value" Detainee Abu Zubaydah

30 March 2010

(Illustration: Jared Rodriguez / t r u t h o u t)

Editor's Note: This story has been updated.

The Justice Department has quietly recanted nearly every major claim the Bush administration had made about "high-value" detainee Abu Zubaydah, a Guantanamo prisoner who at one time was said to have planned the 9/11 attacks and was the No. 2 and 3 person in al-Qaeda.

Additionally, Justice has backed away from some of the claims intelligence officials working in the Clinton administration had also leveled against Zubaydah, specifically, that he was directly involved in the planning of the 1998 embassy bombings in East Africa.

Zubaydah's name is redacted in some instances in the 109-page court document the government filed in US District Court in Washington, DC in response to 213 discovery requests Zubaydah's attorneys made in connection with his habeas corpus case, which sought evidence to support, among other Bush administration claims, that Zubaydah was a top al-Qaeda official and close confidant of Osama Bin Laden.

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His torture was videotaped and the tapes later destroyed. The destruction of 90 videotapes of his interrogations is the focus of a high-level criminal investigation being conducted by John Durham, a federal prosecutor appointed special counsel in 2008 by then-Attorney General Michael Mukasey.

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But court documents unclassified last week debunk Thiessen's assertions. Moreover, the government acknowledges in its partially redacted filing that it does not rely on anything Zubaydah told his torturers after his March 2002 capture in Pakistan in arguing that he should continue to be detained.

The document also refutes every statement George W. Bush made publicly about Zubaydah, who the former president claimed was one of al-Qaeda's "top operatives plotting and planning death and destruction on the United States." -->-->-->

The above has already started getting not only legs but is already expanding rapidly into other cases.

Harkat gets bombshell help from declassified U.S. documents

U.S. report says his reputed al-Qaeda associate actually had no ties to terrorist group

April 1, 2010

Mohamed Harkat attends a rally at the Human Rights Monument in Ottawa March 27, 2010.
Photograph by: Chris Mikula, The Ottawa Citizen

OTTAWA-The federal government case against Ottawa terror suspect Mohamed Harkat appears to have suffered a significant blow Wednesday when a document was introduced in court showing that Abu Zubaydah, once considered a master terrorist and 9/11 mastermind, actually had nothing to do with the attacks.

Even more surprising, the document, which quotes U.S court filings declassified last week, shows that Zubaydah, once believed to be one of the top leaders in al-Qaeda, was not even a member of the terrorist group.

One of Harkat’s lawyers, Norm Boxall, said the information is significant because part of the government’s case against Harkat is that he is an associate of Zubaydah.

If Zubaydah has no ties to al-Qaeda, as now appears to be the case, a large chunk of the case against Harkat is under question.

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The document, a report under the byline of Jason Leopold, quoted U.S. court documents, which say the American government now admits that Zubaydah did not have “any direct role in or advance knowledge of the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001,” and was neither a “member” of al-Qaeda nor “formally” identified with the terrorist organization.

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“The Government’s accounts frequently have been at variance with the actual facts, and the government has generally been loath to provide the facts until forced to do so,” Zubaydah’s attorney, Brent Mickum, is quoted in the article as saying.

“When the government was forced to present the facts in the form of a discovery in Zubaydah’s case, it realized that the game was over and there was no way it could support the Bush administration’s baseless allegations,” he is quoted as saying. -->-->-->

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UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
FOR THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA
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ZAYN AL ABIDIN MUHAMMAD
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Civil Action No. 08-cv-1360 (RWR)
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ROBERT GATES,
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Respondent
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RESPONDENT'S MEMORANDUM OF POINTS AND AUTHORITIES IN
OPPOSITION TO PETITIONER'S MOTION FOR DISCOVERY AND PETITIONER'S
MOTION FOR SANCTIONS 109 page PDF of Court Document

Add to this news All those who were renditioned and either sent to Gitmo or kept in other countries clandestine prisons, most being tortured, then released after given no trials nor even shown any documents etc. as to why they were taken away from their homes and countries and held for years!

Some will still try and say many of those who've been released have 'returned' to the battlefields of the occupations. First most of these detainees weren't picked up on any 'battlefields', many were grabbed in places like the cities of Pakistan, which wasn't a third front of war yet as far as we were concerned. Next, who in their right mind wouldn't think that if just released, after being incarcerated far away from family and home, tortured numerous times, held with zero contact with anyone especially family and lawyers as well as human rights groups, that some would choose to seek retaliation and blowback against those that held them!!

This came out the other day and gives a small glimpse into the mindset of the bush administration.

And they say our torturing was carried out by rouge soldiers and private contractors, what was it, oh ya, College Pranksters!!

Baha Mousa inquiry: US concerned about 'milder' British methods in Iraq

30 March 2010 Senior UK intelligence officer warned of concerns just as Iraqi civilian died in British custody

The UK's most senior military intelligence officer in Iraq warned that the US was expressing concern about the ineffectiveness of British interrogation methods just as an Iraqi civilian died in British custody, it was disclosed today.

The implication of the warning, revealed in evidence to the inquiry into the death of Basra hotel worker Baha Mousa in 2003, was that the US wanted British forces to adopt tougher techniques even though they were already using methods officially banned by the government.

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Clapham also warned about breaching the Geneva conventions and about criticism from the Red Cross of the treatment of Iraqi detainees by British soldiers. Mousa died after suffering asphyxia.

It is unclear whether Duncan or Clapham knew of the death when they exchanged their emails. The US was concerned that "UK interrogation was not producing results in Iraq", Duncan told the inquiry today .

"There was an ongoing issue in relation to views expressed by the US military and civilian intelligence community that the UK intelligence elements were not obtaining enough information and intelligence from prisoners held by UK forces." -->-->-->

They accomplished what they set out to do, Perpetual War and Criminal Terrorism for the decades coming and in doing so gave this bin Laden all that he stated he wanted as to his once little group of criminal terrorist. Thus ensuring a never ending fear of and the creation of hatreds that leads to an enemy element, ensuring profits for the defense contractors and war profiteers for the foreseeable future and long after!!

As well as the rapid creation of domestic criminal terror mentality within our borders!