The green jobs debate:

Finally after we started down the road of alternatives some forty years ago, only to get blocked by the special interests, their money and those who will willingly parrot what told to, the facts told then and since are racing into the public conscious here now. Far behind others who took what we started and have been improving on rapidly. They not only started using that technology but have the experienced innovative trades and and other professionals needed to quickly advance on, those trades and others also started being exported around the same time. The trades are and have been training the needed younger workers in the expansion of the involved industries, adding them to the growing portfolio's of continued economic growth, while here the special interests meme's have evolved from what was, like energy is cheap, can't use that anymore, to denial of the obvious rapid climate change, with huge amounts of capital spent in that denial which should be going to jobs and businesses in creating the industry would should have been leading in already, as we once did in oh so many but we've even allowed that ending.

A boon or a bust for the economy?

February 9, 2012 - Jonah Goldberg took President Obama to task in an August column about green jobs. “[T]he windfall in green jobs,” he wrote, “has always been a con job.”

The record in America has been no better, Obama's campaign stump speeches notwithstanding. The New York Times, which has been touting the green agenda in its news pages for years, admitted last week that "federal and state efforts to stimulate creation of green jobs have largely failed, government records show." Even Obama's former green jobs czar concedes the point, as do other leading Democrats, including Rep. Maxine Waters of Los Angeles.

But Next 10’s Many Shades of Green report tells a different story. The new report documents California’s green economy, finding that green jobs haven’t been as vulnerable to recession. Tiffany Hsu explains on Money & Co.

From January 2009 through January 2010, the overall state economy lost 7% of its jobs, according to nonprofit research group Next 10’s Many Shades of Green report. During the same period, the core green economy -- composed of businesses involved in renewable energy, clean-fuel cars, water conservation, emissions trading and more -- suffered a 3% job loss.

That left 169,800 green jobs in the state at the start of 2010. Regions such as San Diego, the Bay Area and Sacramento remained resilient with less than a 2% green employment decline. Los Angeles, which has more than 20% of all green jobs in the state, saw its positions slip 4% to 26,600.

Stephen Lacey at ThinkProgress cheers the good news. read more>>>

California: 2012 Many Shades of Green

Private capital investment, under the past some thirty years of the new capitalism, is at a crawling snails pace within this country, in many area's, while other Countries are quickly advancing. If the free trade capitalist had been following their own selling points on the least that should have happened was as the economic collapse was approaching, I could see it so I knew they could for even the wealthy spending was drying up, were the investments into growth businesses thus jobs should have quickly taken place, instead of just talk by the few, that continues, thus the total collapse of the construction industry would never have occurred, we in the trades would have quickly started the building on that end while the architects, engineers and more would have done same on theirs.

The special interests meme's have to be drowned out this time around, we've lost way too much time, not only in adding a much needed industry, with many offshoots, but for a cleaner healthier planet for hopefully the generations to come! Private investors hoard then it's up to the public sector as it has many times, think after WWII, to force the growth in!

This is not a bubble that would burst, unless we once again allow the needed experienced trades to be sent to others for our needs and wants, we don't get those any cheaper here no matter what the wages rise to in sharing the labors, the huge growth in corporate and investor compensations prove that, there's more then enough capital to be shared and for growth and expansion of a middle class while bringing the poor into. We've lost many trades and others are quickly dissolving here, experience in and innovations from, while in other countries they grow as the needs for expand their economies. We instead import more of our needs rather then exporting those developed and produced within.